DON'T ARGUE WITH
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history - interview band member
BEHIND TROUT MASK from england 1(?)
october 1997 RESONANCE vol.6 #1 note:
part 1 - THIS is PART 2
* after 'trout
mask replica' i left the band for a while - i
won't go into that, it's a whole other story.
but eventually don called me back again. he had
art tripp (ed marimba) playing drums but
artie could not play the parts that i'd written.
he was a trained musician and a great
improviser, but he didn't have that kind of
technique. so don switched him to marimba and
asked me to come back.
he told me things were going to be different. his picture was on the cover of rolling stone (14 may 1970 - t.t.) and he felt that i should get some of the credit and be in the band and make the money, not that they were going to go big time. so i came back into the band and they had all these songs but no drum parts. so don said: 'use the drum parts that you used on 'trout mask replica', because people will relate to that'. the difference between the 'trout mask replica' and 'lick my decals off, baby' drum parts was that artie had two bass drums. so i used a double bass pedal. on 'doctor dark' it's both artie and me playing. it's really good fun to play with another drummer. you can do intertwining parts and he was really good at fine buzz rolls and the intricate needlework. i was good at clubbing the drums to death over these weird rhythms that no-one else wanted to take the time to play. artie spent most of his spare time playing pool. i spent most of my spare time practising, that's why i was able to do these and he wasn't. he could probably have played them better than i had if he would have taken the time. i think that's what it boils down to: how much are you willing to put into being yourself, or expressing yourself? how much are you willing to sacrifice dating, having money, a car, or having a nice place to live and being secure, in order to do that? at that point i didn't care. i wanted to do this more than anything else on earth. i can't say i've reaped a lot of benefits. but playing at the london musicians collective festival [which organized this clinic] was a very strong payback because i felt very honoured to be there and to play to people who appreciate the odd style that developed out of all this. * questions from the audience: when you were notating the musical parts to 'trout mask replica' and you were going crazy having this idea about how you could fix it all together so it would be playable, what were the other band members' reactions to being given this music to play - and trying to link all the parts together, which would obviously not have been something they had done before? well, the
reaction was really positive because the way don
always composed before was tedious, slow. it
would take hours because he would do everything
vocally and verbally and sing parts. sometimes
he'd try them on drums, sometimes he'd try
playing them on guitar, but it was always sort
of (from band): 'is this what you mean?' 'no,
that's not it.' but with the
piano and it being written down, there was
usually a delay between the time it was written
and the teaching to the band. in that length of
time don would build the intensity level of the
mode of creation and would be able to
concentrate more on helping the person to understand what he was trying
to do, so it actually made it a lot easier.
everybody was very receptive to it as far as
that goes. it wasn't: 'oh my god, this is
térrible'. it was actually more work, but we got a lot more accomplished and we wóuld have got a lot more accomplished if don wasn't the sort of paranoid personality that he was. he always thought that someone was trying to sabotage his music. we'd have these talks that would take days and everyone would be worn out and sleep for a day and then get back to work.
as far as the
workings of getting the actual music together
and rehearsing, we had a great time doing it
because we could work on our own endeavour.
everyone had a line towards seeing this thing
done - 'this is
exciting, no-one has ever done this before, we
are cutting new ground here, let's do it'. we
had to roll up our sleeves and get working on
it. don wasn't a keyboard player as such, so you must have sifted out a high percentage of dross and picked out the melodic parts, would you say? well, don was very good. the fact that he wasn't a keyboard player meant he couldn't play long passages. so that's why all the phrases are short. but usually what i would do was have him play it and i would sit next to him on the piano and learn it. i'd say: 'ok, give me a minute.' and because i basically knew how he thought rhythmically i would learn from him.would you say that what was in his head came out of his fingers, or did he just play randomly and pick stuff out that he thought as usable? could he play the same thing twice? he could; it was difficult for him but he could do it. i would say that he mostly sat down and experimented with something. that's what it seemed like to me. but there were times that he didn't take it very seriously and he'd just play something once. i'd go: 'was that it?', and he'd say: 'yeah'. we'd need a part for a song. don would say: 'oh well' (mimics running hands over keyboard) and throw the stones where they would land. but there were times when he had moments. one of the most brilliant things he ever did was on 'lick my decals off, baby', called 'peon'. he played it on the piano and we recorded it éxactly the way it was played, except for maybe two notes we changed. that shows his brilliance and his ability to grasp the concept of what a keyboard was and utilise it in compositional form without any training whatsoever. (points to head:) so the man definitely had some smarts up there. * short lines from the cyber version that didn't get printed: there was a song called 'wild life' that's on 'trout mask replica'. that drum part was one of my favorites. it's in five. by the way, that second 'bake' of 'hair pie' recorded in the studio was done with cardboard on the drums. we did one version at the house, recorded on a remote system - and one in the studio. they asked me to put cardboard on the drums for that. i used to put it underneath the hi hat, and on all the drums and underneath all the cymbals to deaden them - nothing really noisy for the neurotic lady. so the drum sound there is dedicated to the lady who lived across the street. we were all
totally broke. there was no money. basically
don's mother was supporting the band and zoot
horn rollo's (bill harkleroad's) mother
would send down cheques to pay the rent and buy
food. i remember once going for a month and all
we had to eat every day was one little ratio
about this big, a four-ounce cup of soya beans.
that was our food for the day. * remark: find out more about john french aka drumbo |